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Latest comment: Yesterday at 17:51 by Redstone Gamer 1 in topic Removing information without justification
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== Odd naming ==
== Reverting ==


Hello, stop reverting reasonable commits without any comments. Thanks. [[User:Jertzukka|Jertzukka]] ([[User talk:Jertzukka|talk]]) 15:46, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
The annoucement smells like translation or intermal naming error.


:I delete the unreasonable ones, or ones that go against our current plans for the wiki. If you think it's unreasonable say why and I (or one of the other members of the team) might put it back [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 22:14, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
It would be weird to have the Bison (which its primary attack is leaping) and another ARC called the leaper.
::I don't know how much you've been around but it is very common [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Etiquette|wiki etiquette]] to leave proper comments especially if reverting other people's changes. Reverting changes with each being "update page" is the same as having no change summary at all and appears malicious. Also who's the wiki team? Only people with additional permissions on this wiki are Justice and Luke, we all others are just contributors. [[User:Jertzukka|Jertzukka]] ([[User talk:Jertzukka|talk]]) 00:23, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
:::We have a group chat with a few of us, including luke and justice. We each have our own priorities, we have a map design guy, dread does a lot of code with luke, I do some code and do data gathering and most of the page formatting.
:::I've just had to deal with a bunch of people uploading AI slop and making really bad changes last week so my patience with edits was worn thin so sorry if it seemed rude. [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 01:55, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
:::: Hi, so I wondered why you removed [https://arcraiders.wiki/w/index.php?title=ARC&diff=next&oldid=8970 this section] as unnecessary? It seems like a good fit for this page explaining general mechanics of this enemy type. The same information is also found on multiple guides already. --[[User:Ni|Ni]] ([[User talk:Ni|talk]]) 20:03, 5 November 2025 (UTC)
:::::It's not accurate information in reality. It's a hard and loose rule for some ARC more than others.
:::::We also already have armor/plate information on each ARC's individual page [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 22:25, 5 November 2025 (UTC)


== Section moving ==


Why are you moving important info about items to the bottom of the page? (See: [https://arcraiders.wiki/w/index.php?title=Photoelectric_Cloak&diff=9819&oldid=9817|this] or [https://arcraiders.wiki/w/index.php?title=Barricade_Kit&diff=9895&oldid=9881|this]). People who look up an item on the wiki are interested in what the item does, how long the effect lasts, how it interacts, whether can it be recovered after used. Putting this information at the bottom of the page below large tables like crafting, recycle, salvage is counter-intuitive to how most people actually use the site. [[User:Jertzukka|Jertzukka]] ([[User talk:Jertzukka|talk]]) 22:01, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
I also think "Spotter" just got renamed to "Snitch" in the blog post, so kind of suggesets the same. [[User:Metalstorm|Metalstorm]] ([[User talk:Metalstorm|talk]]) 18:07, 13 October 2025 (UTC)


:I'm temporarily moving them, the top part is only used to give brief description for each page for link purposes. We're currently working on implementing cargo for cleaner tables then info about items will be moved higher up. [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 22:03, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
:I went to put a thumbs up but this isn't discord...
::Short description is already available in the infobox, having the same 1 sentence summary from the infobox is of no use. This wiki definitely needs a Style guide, and written by someone who actually has experience because whoever is coming up with these design decisions at the moment is griefing the wiki. @[[User:Luke|Luke]] @[[User:Justice|Justice]] [[User:Jertzukka|Jertzukka]] ([[User talk:Jertzukka|talk]]) 22:11, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
:I'm just keeping the leaper for now but I'll remove the spotter rq [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 18:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)
:::A lot of the changes were made temporarily and have just stayed longer than anticipated, we're going to be pushing a style guide soon and cleaning up pages when cargo is implemented fully since that's the priority. [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 22:33, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
:::: But setting up cargo doesn't change anything about the layout of pages, it only allows using data from one page on others? The layout can already be done now with templates now and I think the "data tables" section (not the infobox) is probably fine a little further below. --[[User:Ni|Ni]] ([[User talk:Ni|talk]]) 15:19, 8 November 2025 (UTC)


== Removing information without justification ==
== Looting Page ==


Dude you have a history of deleting peoples' contributions. That doesn't help the community. I added info on the steel spring page that detailed all the items you can recycle or salvage to get steel springs, and you deleted it, claiming it's "unnecessary" and said it will be added to all pages eventually. Well in the meantime, why not keep it there? What reason do you have to delete that objectively helpful information now without having something productive to replace it with? [[User:TheGuyMain|TheGuyMain]] ([[User talk:TheGuyMain|talk]]) 15:35, 10 November 2025 (UTC)
Why no links for items on the [https://arcraiders.wiki/w/index.php?title=Looting&diff=next&oldid=5262 Looting page]? [[User:Cooltrain|Cooltrain]] ([[User talk:Cooltrain|talk]]) 22:00, 23 October 2025 (UTC)


:we're waiting to put the recycled from section until we have cargo in place, I talked about this with the rest of the team. People were complaining about stuff being messy so I was deleting or moving things to clean stuff up (some stuff was info that was repeated that on the page and unnecessary.)
:it breaks mobile [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 23:15, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
:I have definitely accidentally removed 1 or 2 things that were good additions but they got readded after I realized my mistake. [[User:Redstone Gamer 1|Redstone Gamer 1]] ([[User talk:Redstone Gamer 1|talk]]) 17:51, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:51, 10 November 2025

Reverting

Hello, stop reverting reasonable commits without any comments. Thanks. Jertzukka (talk) 15:46, 4 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I delete the unreasonable ones, or ones that go against our current plans for the wiki. If you think it's unreasonable say why and I (or one of the other members of the team) might put it back Redstone Gamer 1 (talk) 22:14, 4 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't know how much you've been around but it is very common wiki etiquette to leave proper comments especially if reverting other people's changes. Reverting changes with each being "update page" is the same as having no change summary at all and appears malicious. Also who's the wiki team? Only people with additional permissions on this wiki are Justice and Luke, we all others are just contributors. Jertzukka (talk) 00:23, 5 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
We have a group chat with a few of us, including luke and justice. We each have our own priorities, we have a map design guy, dread does a lot of code with luke, I do some code and do data gathering and most of the page formatting.
I've just had to deal with a bunch of people uploading AI slop and making really bad changes last week so my patience with edits was worn thin so sorry if it seemed rude. Redstone Gamer 1 (talk) 01:55, 5 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hi, so I wondered why you removed this section as unnecessary? It seems like a good fit for this page explaining general mechanics of this enemy type. The same information is also found on multiple guides already. --Ni (talk) 20:03, 5 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
It's not accurate information in reality. It's a hard and loose rule for some ARC more than others.
We also already have armor/plate information on each ARC's individual page Redstone Gamer 1 (talk) 22:25, 5 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Section moving

Why are you moving important info about items to the bottom of the page? (See: [1] or [2]). People who look up an item on the wiki are interested in what the item does, how long the effect lasts, how it interacts, whether can it be recovered after used. Putting this information at the bottom of the page below large tables like crafting, recycle, salvage is counter-intuitive to how most people actually use the site. Jertzukka (talk) 22:01, 7 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'm temporarily moving them, the top part is only used to give brief description for each page for link purposes. We're currently working on implementing cargo for cleaner tables then info about items will be moved higher up. Redstone Gamer 1 (talk) 22:03, 7 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
Short description is already available in the infobox, having the same 1 sentence summary from the infobox is of no use. This wiki definitely needs a Style guide, and written by someone who actually has experience because whoever is coming up with these design decisions at the moment is griefing the wiki. @Luke @Justice Jertzukka (talk) 22:11, 7 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
A lot of the changes were made temporarily and have just stayed longer than anticipated, we're going to be pushing a style guide soon and cleaning up pages when cargo is implemented fully since that's the priority. Redstone Gamer 1 (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
But setting up cargo doesn't change anything about the layout of pages, it only allows using data from one page on others? The layout can already be done now with templates now and I think the "data tables" section (not the infobox) is probably fine a little further below. --Ni (talk) 15:19, 8 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Removing information without justification

Dude you have a history of deleting peoples' contributions. That doesn't help the community. I added info on the steel spring page that detailed all the items you can recycle or salvage to get steel springs, and you deleted it, claiming it's "unnecessary" and said it will be added to all pages eventually. Well in the meantime, why not keep it there? What reason do you have to delete that objectively helpful information now without having something productive to replace it with? TheGuyMain (talk) 15:35, 10 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

we're waiting to put the recycled from section until we have cargo in place, I talked about this with the rest of the team. People were complaining about stuff being messy so I was deleting or moving things to clean stuff up (some stuff was info that was repeated that on the page and unnecessary.)
I have definitely accidentally removed 1 or 2 things that were good additions but they got readded after I realized my mistake. Redstone Gamer 1 (talk) 17:51, 10 November 2025 (UTC)Reply